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Safaia Ryuujin- 11-05-2005
Ah, just curious how this debate will work here. I've seen in on three other forums: one was complete hatred, another was a lot of religious bashing, and the last was more mature.

I have nothing against homosexuality or bisexuality, and have had numerous friends that were. My ex-best friend started off straight when I met him, then became bi a year later and shortly after gay. I had no problems at all with this, because I knew his relationships with girls never went far; it was nice to actually see him happy for once. (We're no longer friends for other reasons.)

I'll add more, but I want to see where this goes first.

Rei- 11-08-2005
I'm not gay,but I'm friends with gays.I've found this to be true,that I get along with gays a WHOLE LOT better than others.I have no problem with it and I'm used to it.

Kikyo's END- 11-09-2005
I have no problem whatsoever with Homosexuals and bisexual, I just donn't think they should get married for religious reasons. I have alot of bi and gay firends to so I'm fine with it.



Note: I don't want to debate whether gay people can have a marriage or not. I'm not really against it but I'm not for it...I've heard there's a marriage like thing for gay people and I think they should do that...but it's not like I'd pro-*test*-('") against it or anything.

Old Skewl CJ- 11-09-2005
I was friends with one at my old school. He moved so now I never see him anymore. They are nice people and should be treated with respect.

Koga- 11-09-2005
I have no problem with gay people!

I am one!!!!!YAY. I'M GAY AND DARN PROUD!!!!!!!

sweetbabygurl121159- 11-09-2005
I never told anyone this... which means Koga needs to keep it to himself... but I am Bi.... so yeah... I have many MANY friends that are Gay, lesbian, bi, ect... and so yeah...

Yigstrandil- 11-09-2005
QUOTE (Kikyo's END @ Nov 9 2005, 08:02 AM)
Note: I don't want to debate whether gay people can have a marriage or not. I'm not really against it but I'm not for it...I've heard there's a marriage like thing for gay people and I think they should do that...but it's not like I'd pro-*test*-('") against it or anything.

Don't want to get dragged in? TOO BAD!!! Your comment made the perfect segue to a little bit of writing I made about a year ago, just before the election. inupalace/9.gif


Enemies of Gay Marriage's biggest problem seems to not be that homosexuals exist or homosexual intercourse is wrong, but that the word "marriage" should only mean "the joining of a man and a woman." Kerry's idea tried to meet them halfway with civil unions. That was not a good idea because a gay couple wouldn't be married, they would be in a civil union.
It's the word: "Marriage" is an incredibly old institution, and "Civil Union" sounds like left-wing newspeak. That, and for some reason they don't provide as many benefits as Marriage. In essence, the fight isn't over the idea of marriage, but the word marriage.

From here, the solution looks simple enough. The government should strike words like marry, marriage and married from all documents and replace them with something less touchy, like "domestic partners" or "civil unions." This seems like a crazy huge step, but really isn't. The government has made all kinds of revisions like this before. It's the whole history of using politically correct language. However, unlike the switch from Nig*er to Negro to Black to African American, what with the saying "The older version was offensive," the spin should be "we understand that marriages still exist, but the government has no place in it. Marriages are spiritual, symbolic and above all personal undertakings. The government isn't a church, we can't unite two souls under God." It should be spun just so that people should still feel like they were and/ or could still get married, but the government wouldn't have anything to do about it. The marriage red tape from the government would still be filled out, just with the words "domestic partnership" instead of "marriage." This way, the government could effectively wash its hands of a gay couple getting married and calling themselves married. "That's their word, not ours. Those fags diddn't marry, they got domestically partnered," the government could say.
Liberal churches could allow gay marriages, and conservative churches could ban gay marriages.

Even nowadays where non-PC words have negative connotations, they never really stop people from using them in private, anyway. Most people don't say "developmentally disabled," they say "retarded."

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Well, I think it's a good idea.

EDIT: Not like it should really matter, or affect what people think of my idea(s), but I am indeed bi.

cittykat44550- 11-09-2005
Okay, I'm not as... smart as Yiggy, here... but I do think the decrimination... (s and not sure it's in the right context... I'm trieng out new words, lol) against people that are atrracted to the same sex, is absolutly wrong! What the heck? I mean, you can like anyone you want, why shouldn't you be able to get bound together in MARRAGE? I mean, all it really is, is proving that you want to stay with the person forever, and it gives the other person other things as benifits. (for example, if one partner had medical care, then got into a marrage, then [if it's the right kind of medical care] the opther partner gets it, too.)


Okay, a short point, and PLEASE READ THIS!:

You marry someone ussually because you love them, because they have something in comon with you... Well, when it comes to homosexuality, guess what? Being the same sex IS something in comon, so when people say that they can't marry, it's basicly saying:

"You can't marry because you guys have TOO much in comon."

Thank you.
~Citty

Safaia Ryuujin- 11-09-2005
Nice to see that a lot of people actually support homosexuality and bisexuality here. I, too, have had my share of gay and bisexual friends over the years and have never had problems. Honestly, it seems like there has been a sharp increase in homosexuals and bisexuals within the past few years as opposed to before; possibly because people aren't as afraid. To discriminate again 10% of the world (I highly doubt it's even that low) is just wrong. I mean, they can argue all they want about religion, but in today's world you can hold your views and say 10% of the world should be denied their rights. That is discrimination.

And as for the marriage debate, it's legal here, so I'm happy.

Rei- 11-09-2005
I made a new friend today.It turns out that she's bi.Her name is Saundra.She's very nice and kind(she allowed me to borrow a pencil so I wouldn't get in trouble with Mrs. Kurtz).She really gets along with everyone.

I told you I get along with gays and bis better than other people.

Sylvaron- 11-09-2005
Not against them, not for them.


There's my post on homosexuality for today.

Angelic Force- 11-09-2005
dam you homosexuals! I mean how dare you have sex with other men/women! I mean it was supposed to be a man and a woman! God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! Sheeze get it right! Its nature... so is it really that hard! Get over it you hippies!

In case anybody's blood is boiling, and they want to kill me about now, I should let you all know that post was a sarcasic rant. If I was against gays I wouold be a hypocrite. The fact is, I have frequent sexual fantsies about other men, and they are awsome fansies. I will do you all the courtousey of not mentioning them, but you get the picture. Don't get me wrong here, I am also very attraced to women. Plus it was a gay guy who first called me hot, instead of cute, so they are in my good books.

P.S. I would like to take this oppurtunity to thank you guys and girls for not bashing Christianity.

Rei- 11-09-2005
Like I said,I'm NOT gay,but I'm friends with gays and bis(yeah like my new friend Saundra).Besides,gays and bis are cool and they treat me like I'm a person and not like I'm dirt(like some people I've met).

Angelic Force- 11-09-2005
*Sharpens blade* whose this person treating you like dirt now?

Rei- 11-09-2005
QUOTE (Angelic Force @ Nov 9 2005, 10:56 PM)
*Sharpens blade* whose this person treating you like dirt now?

I mean people that I've met in general.I mean there are people at my school that have figured out that I'm friends with gays and bis.They just keep their distance from me like I got some kind of deadly virus.

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